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The Q<\/strong>uebec A<\/strong>ssociation of M<\/strong>ilitary V<\/strong>ehicles (QAMV<\/strong>) was founded in 2019 in the wake of the unilateral change in regulations decided by the S.A.A.Q. concerning the registration of historic military vehicles.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Following an agreement negotiated by the QAMV, military vehicles can once again be registered (and circulate freely) on Quebec roads since May 2020.<\/b><\/p><\/div>\n\n\n\n

Summary from 2019-2020:<\/h1>\n\n\n\n

In 2019, The S.A.A.Q. has unilaterally chosen to consider as \u00ab\u00a0off-road\u00a0\u00bb vehicles several historic military vehicles that had already been circulating freely on Quebec roads for many years.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Under false pretenses, the S.A.A.Q. targeted owners of certain types of military vehicles and sent them a letter<\/a> notifying them of an immediate status change to their registration,which suddenly had major restrictions.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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The list of \u00ab\u00a0Restricted vehicles\u00a0\u00bb of the S.A.A.Q. <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

First under the name \u201cClub v\u00e9hicules militaires du Qu\u00e9bec \u201d (and in connection with the Facebook group of the same name) several owners of military vehicles of Quebec got together to make Minister Bonnardel aware of the monumental error that had been committed !<\/p>\n\n\n\n

After officially becoming the \u201cQu\u00e9bec Association of Military Vehicles\u201d (and registered with the Qu\u00e9bec Registry of lobbyists<\/a>) this group of owners engaged in discussions with the Ministry of Transportation of Quebec in order to convince the Minister to correct this injustice.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

During our discussions, it became obvious that Minister Bonnardel affixed his signature to the first Ministerial Decree<\/a> proposed by the S.A.A.Q. in the spring of 2019 without knowing the facts. This is probably the reason why he chose to support us for the next steps.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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The S.A.A.Q. claimed that the 1985 Bombardier Iltis which was used by the Canadian army until the beginning of the 2000s was to be limited to roads of 70 km\/h or less (and use a \u00ab\u00a0C\u00a0\u00bb plate) as of August 22 2019 because it was not safe; while the 1930 Ford with wooden wheels could continue to benefit from a \u201cPromenade\u201d type registration and circulate without restrictions on the roads of Qu\u00e9bec!<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Once the Minister was better informed about our vehicles, and once he became aware aware of the regulations in place in other jurisdictions, he asked his representatives to get actively involved to find a satisfactory solution and allow again the safe circulation of military vehicles on Qu\u00e9bec roads.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

In fact, the representative of the Minister acted as an intermediary for the negotiations between the QAMV and the S.A.A.Q. So after several months of discussions, an agreement was finally reached in January 2020.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Several more weeks (and many more steps) were required to formalize this agreement and transform it into a regulation that would allow us to regain the right to be on the road again without restrictions. The process was finally completed in May 2020 with the publication of a second Ministerial decree<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

In the end, military vehicles can once again be registered (and driven without restrictions) on Qu\u00e9bec roads.
The process for registering a military vehicle in Quebec can be viewed here<\/a> <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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After the summary, the chronology in detail\u2026<\/h1>\n\n\n\n

Let’s start from the beginning\u2026<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

The S.A.A.Q. first stated that she was contacted directly by the various manufacturers of military vehicles in the spring of 2019 to inform them that the vehicles they manufactured were intended for \u00ab\u00a0off-road\u00a0\u00bb use only.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

This was of course impossible for several reasons. The Bombardier division that manufactured military vehicles no longer exists and we wondered why the manufacturers would have contacted the S.A.A.Q. in Qu\u00e9bec but no other jurisdiction in North America ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

On the recommendation of the SAAQ, the Minister of Transport of Quebec at the time, Mr. Fran\u00e7ois Bonnardel, nonetheless signed a Ministerial Decree<\/a> in July 2019 which had the effect of severely restricting the right to use military vehicles on the roads of Quebec.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

These restrictions implied that military vehicles had to use a \u00ab\u00a0C\u00a0\u00bb plate<\/a>, and could only de driven on roads with a speed limit of 70 km\/h or less. These limitations essentially meant that we were now restricted to small roads around our houses. In some cases, owners could not even get out of their driveway ! <\/p>\n\n\n\n

In addition, this Ministerial Decree included a provision that military vehicles were to be completely banned from the roads of the province of Qu\u00e9bec after August 22, 2024 !<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The S.A.A.Q. then began sending letters<\/a> to all affected vehicle owners informing them of the new imposed restrictions. These letters were sent out over several weeks, but the letters all had the same deadline of August 22, 2019.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

In the middle of their vacation, some owners then only had a few days to comply with the new requirements of the S.A.A.Q. !<\/p>\n\n\n\n

…apr\u00e8s v\u00e9rifications, nous avons re\u00e7u la confirmation que le fabricant, ou son importateur, a restreint l’utilisation de celui-ci \u00e0 un usage hors route.<\/p>extrait de la Lettre de la S.A.A.Q. aux 550 propri\u00e9taires de v\u00e9hicules militaires DU QU\u00c9BEC <\/cite><\/blockquote><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

At the time, Minister Bonnardel was so convinced of the arguments of the S.A.A.Q. that he even made a statement to journalists to this effect when he was questioned at the exit of a cabinet meeting (see below)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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August 21st 2019 -> Media statement from Minister Fran\u00e7ois Bonnardel about military vehicles in Qu\u00e9bec (In French)<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n

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What triggered the discussions :<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

Following several media outings from our group (Newspapers and radio), we were contacted by Minister Bonnardel’s office and invited to a meeting in Quebec in order to try to find a way to resolve this crisis. Some media also contacted us for further interviews. (Please note that most links below are in french<\/em>)<\/p>\n\n\n\n